. >> if you go back to the 1960's, you have damien bell and richard hofstadter saying that america is on the verge of becoming a working-class state. you have every headline in the 1970's, the 1980's, the evil, angry white male. the white working-class became the scapegoat for the white, liberal elites. they were saying this country would work perfectly well if it were not for these reactionaries -- reactionary working-class whites. the complex plan -- the complex plan -- ku klux klan, things like that, over a -- it is more liberal. the -- i am skeptical sabout -- about this. it's a matter of time. in 1914, you might have anglo- saxon protestants wondering if the country has broken down with the irish, greeks, italians. the only reason we can sit here and talk sitwhites it -- and talk about whites is that all of those european ethnic identities have collapsed. int he -- in the 1970's, that was it. we will see the largest minority, the latinos, that we are 20 years or 30 years from that collapse. it is speculation. >> i want to give back to bill in a second and brought and now the disc